Transcript - Interview: Hugh Hewitt Interviews Donald Trump on His Radio Show - August 11, 2020 | Factba.se

Hugh Hewitt

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Mr. President, how are you?

Donald Trump

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Hugh Hewitt

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Great to have you on. Thank you for joining me again.

Donald Trump

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My honor. Done it many times.

Hugh Hewitt

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Donald Trump

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And it's my honor. It's always fun.

Hugh Hewitt

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I'm a little superstitious. We talked 16 times during the 2016 election, so I think we need 15 more to make sure you win.

Donald Trump

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We'll catch it. We'll catch it. That's an easy record. Look at the stock market today. It's up 323 points after a big day yesterday. And we are up to 28,000. 28,000, just hit 28,000 for one second. Now it's 27,997.

Hugh Hewitt

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Keep it going. Keep it goin.

Donald Trump

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Now, but think of that.

Hugh Hewitt

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You just weighed, you just weighed in on Jordan v. LeBron, so I'm going to start with an easy one for you since you're friends with both Belichick and Tom Brady.

Donald Trump

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Hugh Hewitt

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Which one has a better chance of winning the Super Bowl this year?

Donald Trump

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Wow, that's a tough one. It's always tougher, you know, when you have friend. It's always tougher. Look, I would say this. It'll be very interesting. It's going to be very interesting to watch. But I won't watch, I won't watch if people don't stand for the National Anthem. If they kneel, I don't watch, including the Super Bowl.

Donald Trump

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With that being said, we're helping the NFL greatly on getting going, etc., etc. But I won't care and I won't watch if they don't stand for the National Anthem, and that's what's happened to basketball. I don't know if you've seen what's going on with basketball. Their ratings are --

Hugh Hewitt

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But if they do stand --

Donald Trump

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Their ratings are down.

Hugh Hewitt

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Are you going with Belichick or Brady?

Donald Trump

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Well, I would say this. You've got, if you ask me coach on coach, I like that as a better question. You always have to hit me with these very tough questions. I think they're both going to do great. They're both friends of mine. I'll tell you, Belichick is an incredible coach, and I think he's going to do really well.

Donald Trump

00:01:41 - 00:01:51 (10 sec)

This guy just knows how to win. And he's a very good friend of mine. He's a winner. You know, if I ever had a military battle, I'd call up Belichick and say what do you think? What do you think? Give me a couple of ideas.

Hugh Hewitt

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I'll tell you, he was not so great with the Browns, Mr. President.

Donald Trump

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And he'd be as good as any general out there. And I think Tom, you know, Tom picked a team where they have a very good offensive line and supposedly great receivers, great receivers. And he did that on purpose. He didn't pick a team just for the dollars. He picked a team that really supposedly has some real talent that hasn't quite gotten there, and in a long time.

Donald Trump

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So I think Tom's going to be an interesting person to watch.

Hugh Hewitt

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Well, that sounded like a Belichick nod, though. Let me get serious, Mr. President. First serious question, in the last five months of this term, for the last five months of your second term if you get one, would you make a nomination to fill a vacancy that occurred on the Supreme Court?

Donald Trump

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You mean if something happened like now?

Hugh Hewitt

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Donald Trump

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Absolutely, I'd do it. Sure. It depends --

Hugh Hewitt

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Someone in mind?

Donald Trump

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You know, I don't know what you're talking about, time, but if you're talking about if something would happen now, no, I would move quickly. Why not? I mean, they would. The Democrats would if they were in this position. But you know, I'll be interested --

Hugh Hewitt

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Do you have someone in mind?

Donald Trump

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Oh, at the end of my term, I'll be up to about 300, could be even a little bit more, 300 federal judges, including Court of Appeals, Appellate divisions. We'll be at 300, think of that, 300 judges, probably a little bit more, and two Supreme Court judges. Think of that. It's not happened --

Hugh Hewitt

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No, no, you followed through. The 53 Appeals Court judges are all solid, and I hope you keep making them.

Donald Trump

00:03:26 - 00:03:48 (22 sec)

And they're solid, and the Appeals Court judges are, you know, I'm getting rave reviews that even some of the, those on the left are saying well, we don't agree with them, but they are very powerful picks. So we're getting rave reviews on judges. I will say that. But you know, who's had so many? Now I was given a gift, because I had 142 when I first came in.

Donald Trump

00:03:48 - 00:04:09 (21 sec)

I said you know, I've always heard, and you've always said, and I've always heard the mot important thing you can do are Supreme Court justices and judges, you know, a combination, really, both. And I said how many do I have my first day? Sir, you have 142. I said you've got to be kidding. So I started off with 142. Most presidents start off with none.

Donald Trump

00:04:09 - 00:04:31 (21 sec)

I would say very rarely do you have one. I had 142, got them filled with really talented, very, very great people, very highly-respected people. And from there, I've gone on to continue to fill a lot of judgeships. A lot of people have retired because they got to a certain age and they retired. We didn't discourage that.

Donald Trump

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And we, we're up to, we'll be over 300. And it's hard to believe, but we'll be over 300 --

Hugh Hewitt

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It is, it's a great achievement. If there is a vacancy this year or early next year or anytime in your second term, do you have a choice already in mind to nominate?

Donald Trump

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I do. I have somebody that I think would be excellent. I do.

Hugh Hewitt

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Is she named Amy Coney Barrett?

Donald Trump

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No, I can't, I can't name who, but I have somebody that I think would be really well-received, would be excellent, highly-respected. I mean, that's subject to change, but somebody that really would be, I think, I think great.

Hugh Hewitt

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All right, let me switch over to foreign affairs. Secretary Azar's visit to Taiwan was significant. Was this a trial run for something bigger? Have you considered or are you considering a historic visit to Taiwan yourself before the end of this year?

Donald Trump

00:05:18 - 00:05:38 (20 sec)

No, I'm not. No, it wasn't, you know, anything like that. It wasn't, it was just something we were talking about COVID. They've done well. We've done well also. We get no credit for it. You know, we do so much testing, so we end up with, when you do testing, you have cases. You know, we tested more than, I guess, about 65 million tests.

Donald Trump

00:05:38 - 00:05:53 (15 sec)

India's at 11, Germany's at 3, and we're at 65. When you test, you have cases. But we've done very well, and that was really a visit on COVID, or as I call it, the China plague or the China virus, which is what it is.

Hugh Hewitt

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Well, given China's recklessness with the virus, and its aggressiveness, especially with its new deal with Iran, should Japan, South Korea or even Taiwan seek nuclear weapons or hypersonic missile capacity, Mr. President?

Donald Trump

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Well, I'm not going to suggest anything, but I will tell you it causes problems. And it's a big point of discussion for us over the next two months. I will tell you that. It's going to be a big, a very big point of discussion.

Hugh Hewitt

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And do you find their alliance with Iran to be particularly troubling and their pattern of recklessness?

Donald Trump

00:06:24 - 00:06:45 (21 sec)

I don't like it. I don't like it. Not at all. And my relationship is much, I had a very good relationship with President Xi. But once it turned to, once we got hit with the virus that they didn't get hit, you know, they contained it in China. Now they've had outbreaks like everyone else, but they contained it essentially in China.

Donald Trump

00:06:45 - 00:06:52 (7 sec)

But they didn't contain it from the U.S. and Europe and the rest of the world. 188 countries, Hugh, 188 countries. And it's frustrating.

Hugh Hewitt

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You told me in 2015, Mr. President, that you would get up to speed on all the terrorists, and you did. Was it a hard call for you to order Soleimani killed even though he had been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. servicemen and women in Iraq? Was it still hard to order the hit?

Donald Trump

00:07:07 - 00:07:29 (22 sec)

It's never an easy call. It's always a, you know, you're talking about human life. One way or the other, you don't know where it leads, it's turned out. And al-Baghdadi, don't forget, took out the founder and leader of ISIS who was trying to build it again. When I took over, ISIS was prevalent. It was all over the place.

Donald Trump

00:07:29 - 00:07:49 (20 sec)

And I wiped out ISIS in Syria and Iraq, 100% of the caliphate. And we found that al-Baghdadi, now he's the one that was stood, I always say, the one with the fan. He always had the fan. You know, it was the old picture, but he always had the fan behind him. And I said why can't you find him? And I was looking for him from the beginning, and we knocked out him, as you know.

Donald Trump

00:07:49 - 00:08:12 (23 sec)

That was big, and then we did Soleimani. And there are those that say that the Soleimani was the biggest move made in the Middle East of anything. And I don't even view it that way. What he did to our soldiers, what he did to people, he was the king of the roadside bomb. He loved the roadside bomb. He loved blowing people's brains out, loved blowing people's legs off and arms.

Donald Trump

00:08:12 - 00:08:29 (17 sec)

And I see them in the hospital. I go over to Walter Reed where I think you have the greatest doctors in the world, by the way, because I see what they can do. It's incredible. But I go over and visit these soldiers a lot, and they are badly, you know, just bad, the military, they are badly, badly injured.

Donald Trump

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And that was really a Soleimani thing.

Hugh Hewitt

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Donald Trump

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A large, large percentage of those bombs were even directly or indirectly put there by Soleimani.

Hugh Hewitt

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You mentioned destroying ISIS, Mr. President. And ISIS grew up under President Obama, and Susan Rice was his national security advisor.

Donald Trump

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Hugh Hewitt

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If Joe Biden picks her, will that be an issue, what happened with ISIS under her watch as NSA?

Donald Trump

00:08:55 - 00:09:07 (12 sec)

Sure. Not only ISIS, was spying on my campaign. We caught them spying on my campaign, Hugh. And I used to watch you on all those liberal lefty shows with Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd and --

Hugh Hewitt

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Chuck's a great host. You know that, but --

Donald Trump

00:09:10 - 00:09:38 (28 sec)

And I said you know, "[Hugh] just doesn't, he just doesn't fit into that group." But somehow, he, Hugh, you wanted to be honest, and you have to be honest. I know you very well, very well. It's always interesting. They name you. I know you very well, Hugh. But I will tell you that you've been terrific. But I watch you on those shows with a few of our friends like Sleepy Eyes, and it was a very interesting, it was a very interesting group.

Donald Trump

00:09:38 - 00:09:39 (2 sec)

I don't think you felt too comfortable.

Hugh Hewitt

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Well, I always feel, I like Chuck. Chuck knows, he'd probably talk sports with you longer than me. But I want to go back to Rice. She was one of the unmaskers of Michael Flynn. Will that be an issue if she's the vice presidential selection?

Donald Trump

00:09:51 - 00:10:11 (20 sec)

100%. Look, not only, I mean literally not only that, we're talking about unmasking, yes. That was a big deal. Horrible deal where they unmasked him so many times. I think he's got to have the record for unmasking. Maybe I do, you know, because we're still looking how many times did they unmask me. Let's find that out, too, because look, they were spying on our campaign.

Donald Trump

00:10:11 - 00:10:27 (16 sec)

They were using him and others, and they were spying on my campaign. So was I unmasked? So far, they haven't said, but let's see what happens. I think you're going to have a very interesting report coming out with Durham. Not report, I hope it's not going to be a report. The last thing I want is another report.

Donald Trump

00:10:27 - 00:10:33 (6 sec)

We've had enough reports. We had the report on Comey, which told you he was a dirty cop. What a report that was by Horowitz.

Hugh Hewitt

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Have you spoken with John Durham, Mr. President?

Donald Trump

00:10:36 - 00:10:38 (2 sec)

I have not, specifically not, no.

Hugh Hewitt

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Have you spoken to Barr about Durham and whether or not we can expect a decision on indictments before the election?

Donald Trump

00:10:43 - 00:11:02 (19 sec)

I, you know, we have a great Attorney General. I leave him to his thing. I will ask him every once in a while when is it coming, when? I can only say this. I believe it's bigger and far more, far reaching and far more powerful than anyone ever thought possible.

Hugh Hewitt

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Is it outside of the FBI, Mr. President? Did it get into the intelligence community?

Donald Trump

00:11:06 - 00:11:27 (22 sec)

It's into every community. This thing was prevalent. It was all over the place, and it was a disgrace. They spied on our campaign. They tried to take me down both before and after the election. They wrote a fake dossier with hookers and all of the disgusting things, and it was a total work of fiction, and that's been proven now many times.

Donald Trump

00:11:27 - 00:11:45 (18 sec)

It's been, and they wanted to use that. And the only thing they couldn't do, for whatever reason, I'll tell you, probably the only time I've respected the media in the last ten years is they were unable to get the fake dossier printed in mainstream media or at all. Nobody would take it, because they all knew it was phony.

Donald Trump

00:11:45 - 00:12:04 (19 sec)

They all knew it was fake. Today, they'd take it, because they've gotten worse, far worse than they were four years ago. They couldn't get it printed, because they wanted to get it printed before the election. And after the election, it didn't mean so much. But they wanted to get this fake document printed before the election, and they couldn't do it.

Hugh Hewitt

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Let me ask you about the dossier --

Donald Trump

00:12:05 - 00:12:21 (16 sec)

And by the way, and John McCain tried, and they all tried. John McCain, you know, I'm supposed to think wonderful things about John McCain. But they brought it to John McCain. They all tried. And they couldn't get it done. And for that, I respect the media.

Hugh Hewitt

00:12:21 - 00:12:28 (7 sec)

If Joe Biden somehow beats you, Mr. President, do you think he'll bury this investigation into the Bureau, the intelligence community, the dossier? Do you think it'll be gone?

Donald Trump

00:12:28 - 00:12:50 (22 sec)

Probably. I mean, probably. I think it's another reason we should win. And we're doing very well. I don't know if you've seen, the polls have been going up like a rocket ship. Hey, I was, George Washington would have had a hard time beating me before the plague came in, before the China plague. And then, you know, like every other nation, like other countries, when you get hit, it affects you, and we went down a little bit.

Donald Trump

00:12:50 - 00:13:09 (19 sec)

And then we went down a little bit more, and now we're coming up at a level that we haven't seen. I just got back from Texas, Ohio and Florida. We've got all law enforcement awards, everything. We got the endorsement from all of them. But I just got back, and they're the largest crowds on the highway I've ever seen.

Donald Trump

00:13:09 - 00:13:14 (5 sec)

I'd love to do the rallies. We can't because of the COVID. You know, you can't have people sitting next to each other.

Hugh Hewitt

00:13:14 - 00:13:25 (10 sec)

Yeah, the big six are Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan. Those are Big 10 states. The coaches want to play football. Do you think Joe Biden wants to play football? Do you think he'll join you in the call to play football up there?

Donald Trump

00:13:25 - 00:13:45 (20 sec)

I don't think Joe knows he's, what he's doing right now. I think Joe's trying to get out of the basement. I'm not sure that he knows. If you'd ask him that question, I don't think he'd be able to answer it. I think you should play football. These are young, strong athletes. As you know, this disease has very little impact on young people, the immune system, and plus, they're in great health.

Donald Trump

00:13:45 - 00:14:06 (21 sec)

They're in very good health. And I think you should play football. They want to play football. I spoke about it a little bit yesterday, but they want to play football, and they should play football. And they should stand for our National Anthem, and they should stand for our flag and respect our flag. Basketball didn't do that, and they're down to tubes.

Donald Trump

00:14:06 - 00:14:09 (3 sec)

Their ratings are terrible, like terrible. People are angry about it.

Hugh Hewitt

00:14:09 - 00:14:10 (1 sec)

I've got little time left --

Donald Trump

00:14:10 - 00:14:26 (16 sec)

The NFL, I hope the NFL learned from their last little go-round two years ago when they got, when they were losing 25-30% of their fans. I hope they learned. I don't think they did, but they will, because the people are angry about it if they don't stand for the flag.

Hugh Hewitt

00:14:26 - 00:14:41 (14 sec)

Now you've got to respect the President's time, so I want to respect your time. But I've got a couple of tough questions here. I even hate to bring this up, because I don't like to talk about books that went around the process. But Ambassador Bolton said you okayed Xi putting the Uyghurs in concentration camps.

Hugh Hewitt

00:14:41 - 00:14:42 (2 sec)

I don't believe that, but is there any truth to it, Mr. President?

Donald Trump

00:14:42 - 00:15:04 (21 sec)

He's a liar, and he's just a sick person. You know, I put him there. Everyone said don't, because he's a nut job. I did it, and frankly, I used him, because every time I walked into a room with this guy, didn't have too much conversation, didn't know him very well. He was there for not a long while, but every time I walked in, I'd win a negotiation, because everyone thought I wanted to go to war.

Donald Trump

00:15:04 - 00:15:10 (7 sec)

You know, when this guy walks into a room, he was a nut job. Now I understand why we got into the Middle East, because he was involved in that, too.

Hugh Hewitt

00:15:10 - 00:15:12 (1 sec)

So you never okayed Xi putting --

Donald Trump

00:15:12 - 00:15:16 (4 sec)

Which is the worst mistake in the history of our country, getting into the Middle East, okay, you know, going into the Middle East was --

Hugh Hewitt

00:15:16 - 00:15:21 (6 sec)

But you never okayed the Uyghurs going into camps? You didn't tell Xi go ahead and put them in concentration camps?

Donald Trump

00:15:21 - 00:15:22 (1 sec)

Of course, I didn't.

Hugh Hewitt

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Donald Trump

00:15:23 - 00:15:44 (21 sec)

Who would ever say a thing like that? He made it up. He made up everything. John Bolton is a sick person. And John, and he's not a smart person. And he actually worked for me, because, frankly, I didn't talk to him much. There wasn't much to say. You're not going to learn much from the guy. He's just, you know, hardline to a point of stupidity.

Donald Trump

00:15:44 - 00:15:51 (7 sec)

And having him in a room, you automatically had a hardline position. But no, John is not somebody that people respect very much.

Hugh Hewitt

00:15:51 - 00:16:07 (15 sec)

All right. You took a lot of heat, some of it from me over the first Helsinki meeting with Putin. But I also gave President Obama heat when he whispered to Medvedev to tell Putin it would be okay after the election. So I had heat for both of you. Who's been tougher on Russia – you or President Obama?

Donald Trump

00:16:07 - 00:16:33 (26 sec)

By a factor of 50, me, okay? Number one, he sent pillows, and I said send them the tank busters, okay? Number two, I got NATO to pay $400 billion a year more to protect themselves against Russia. Obama got nothing except it went down, down, down. Those things. I revealed the pipeline, the pipeline, Nordstream II.

Donald Trump

00:16:33 - 00:16:49 (17 sec)

Nobody even talked about it. Germany's getting their energy from Russia. I said what kind of a deal is this? You're paying Russia billions of dollars, we're protecting you from Russia? What's this all about? I built our military $2.5 trillion dollars. Our military is the strongest it's ever been right now.

Donald Trump

00:16:49 - 00:17:04 (15 sec)

I spent $2.5 trillion dollars. Obama, our military was depleted. I also took care of our vets, and I took care of lots of other things, and we have Space Force. And we became the biggest energy in the world. We're now the biggest energy, by far, in the world.

Hugh Hewitt

00:17:04 - 00:17:20 (16 sec)

And I think the most important thing you've done is you reframed the China relationship breaking with the policy of 50 years to make sure we know they're an adversary. But you tweet nice things about President Xi. Is it possible to both be nice to people and also be tough as hell on them?

Donald Trump

00:17:20 - 00:17:42 (22 sec)

I had a very good relationship with President Xi. I would even say better than good. I would say we had a great relationship. He's a great gentleman. But my relationship is no longer very good with him because of what they did with the China virus. If you ask me that now, I would have said great, I had a great relationship with him.

Donald Trump

00:17:42 - 00:18:06 (24 sec)

I made a great trade deal. They're buying billions and billions of dollars' worth of products. You notice you don't hear the farmers complaining, do you? They just had, they just gave the largest corn order in history last week, the largest ever. You know why? Because he's smart, because rather than saying we're not going to do business with them, they say let's get the biggest orders we've ever gave, because they know how I feel.

Donald Trump

00:18:06 - 00:18:24 (17 sec)

And I'll tell you this. With Iran, and with China, and with everybody, Russia, we're dealing with Russia right now on a nuclear arms pact, because, and they want to do it. They want to do it badly. I don't think they'll wait. I think they want to do it. And it's a great thing. This is the biggest problem in the world today.

Donald Trump

00:18:24 - 00:18:40 (16 sec)

We're dealing with Russia right now on that. But I'll tell you this. With China, but with Iran and North Korea, look what North Korea, everyone thought we were going to be, if Hillary Clinton got in, you would be, maybe the world would be over by now. But millions of people would have died. You would have had a war with North Korea.

Donald Trump

00:18:40 - 00:19:19 (38 sec)

He expected to have a war. Where's the war. You don't have a war. And we have a very good, you know, very different, but very good, relationship. One of those things. When he acts up, I say what's going to happen. I have a very good relationship. But here's what's going to happen. If I don't win, you'll have a deal with Iran in the first month, because all they're waiting for, and China, too, they're hoping, they're hoping that I'm defeated, because if I'm defeated, China will own the United States, and Iran will go back to a deal even better than the first terrible deal where they got $150 billion plus $1.8 billion in green, so in cash. $1.8 billion in cash.

Hugh Hewitt

00:19:19 - 00:19:32 (13 sec)

Are you worried, Mr. President, because you know, John Kerry went around your back with the Iranian foreign minister. Are you worried that Max Baucus or other people connected with Biden are talking to China backchannel the way Secretary Kerry talked to Iran backchannel?

Donald Trump

00:19:32 - 00:19:57 (25 sec)

Well, I think what Secretary Kerry did, if there was ever a reason for the Logan Act, I thought what Secretary Kerry did was horrible, because he made it, we could have had a deal with Iran. And frankly, he broke it up. Kerry's lucky that we have a very fine Attorney General that treats people well, because if there was ever a case for the Logan Act, it certainly wasn't Flynn.

Donald Trump

00:19:57 - 00:20:12 (15 sec)

It was Kerry. Kerry was dealing behind our back telling them not to make a deal, okay? That's different. Telling them not to make a deal, and he's a disgrace. Kerry, that whole administration was a disgrace.

Hugh Hewitt

00:20:12 - 00:20:12 (1 sec)

Do you think Max Baucus --

Donald Trump

00:20:12 - 00:20:33 (20 sec)

The Obama administration, Hugh, the Obama administration got caught spying on my campaign. It's treason. It's whatever you want to call it. It's never happened before. And working on it both before and after the election, and that has to do with, you know, Strzok and his lover, Page --

Hugh Hewitt

00:20:33 - 00:20:33 (0 sec)

Donald Trump

00:20:33 - 00:20:43 (10 sec)

When they did the insurance policy, just in case she loses, we have an insurance policy. Obama got caught, and he knew everything. Obama knew everything. And Biden knew everything.

Hugh Hewitt

00:20:43 - 00:20:48 (6 sec)

Ambassador O'Brien said China wants Vice President Biden to win. Why do you think that is?

Donald Trump

00:20:48 - 00:21:05 (17 sec)

Because they'll own the United State if he wins, and with me, they were having the worst year in 67 years because I tariffed the hell out of them. We took in billions and billions of dollars. I gave some of it to the farmers because they were targeted, and I put the rest in the Treasury of the United States.

Donald Trump

00:21:05 - 00:21:12 (7 sec)

We've taken in tens of billions of dollars from China, and it was having a huge impact on China, negative impact on China.

Hugh Hewitt

00:21:12 - 00:21:13 (1 sec)

You're still the best interview --

Donald Trump

00:21:13 - 00:21:31 (18 sec)

And China will own, just like when his son walked out with $1.5 billion dollars from China to manage, where he'll make millions of dollars a year. Look, China will own the United States if this election is lost by Donald Trump. If I don't win the election, China will own the United States. You're going to have to learn to speak Chinese, you want to know the truth.

Hugh Hewitt

00:21:31 - 00:21:34 (2 sec)

Well, will Hunter Biden come up at the debates, Mr. President?

Donald Trump

00:21:34 - 00:21:54 (20 sec)

And you'll have to learn it fast. They will own the United States. And I'll tell you another thing that'll happen. The market's up 350 points today. It was up 350 points yesterday. It's ready to break new records. NASDAQ has already broken a record. We're doing very well in everything including Corona, as you call it.

Donald Trump

00:21:54 - 00:22:10 (16 sec)

But let me just tell you, we're getting to an end. We're getting to, and the vaccines are ready to rock. We're going to be very close to a vaccine. We're ready to distribute, and we're there for the therapeutics, which to me is even more important, frankly. It makes you better. It's more important than the vaccine.

Hugh Hewitt

00:22:10 - 00:22:11 (1 sec)

Two last questions.

Donald Trump

00:22:11 - 00:22:25 (14 sec)

But I will tell you this. If Biden wins, you're going to have a radical left. You'll have every city looking like Portland, but you'll have a radical left, and you're going to have a stock market crash the equivalent of 1928 and 1929.

Hugh Hewitt

00:22:25 - 00:22:25 (0 sec)

You just mentioned --

Donald Trump

00:22:25 - 00:22:52 (26 sec)

You will have the stock market crash the equivalent of what we had in 1929. And just mark my words, someday we'll talk about it. I hope we don't have to ever bother, because I hope it doesn't happen. But your 401K's will drop down to numbers that's not even possible. Right now, everybody with their 401K's, you know, we're literally a few points off the greatest market in our history.

Donald Trump

00:22:52 - 00:23:13 (21 sec)

I used to talk about the greatest market six, seven months ago. We had the greatest market in history. And I was sailing. I mean, we were going, we were going very good, Hugh. It was really looking good, and then we got hit by the plague. And now, people are respecting the way we've handled that. But I think more importantly, they're respecting the jobs numbers and the economy.

Donald Trump

00:23:13 - 00:23:19 (6 sec)

The economy is coming back on a very steep V-curve which I said it would. And it's come up --

Hugh Hewitt

00:23:19 - 00:23:21 (2 sec)

Well also, just, Mr. President --

Donald Trump

00:23:21 - 00:23:24 (3 sec)

We're almost, we're almost going to be hitting new records maybe soon, very soon.

Hugh Hewitt

00:23:24 - 00:23:33 (9 sec)

We've already made a lot of news, but I want to go back. You mentioned Hunter Biden getting a billion and a half. Will you bring him up in the debates, Hunter Biden?

Donald Trump

00:23:33 - 00:23:52 (19 sec)

Well, I think he's subject to it. I'm not, I don't like doing it, but it's, look, he walked away with a billion and a half dollars. You go to Steve Schwarzman of Blackstone and ask him, because I did, is that possible. And he said no, it's not possible. Not possible. He walked away in ten minutes with $1.5 billion dollars.

Donald Trump

00:23:52 - 00:24:14 (22 sec)

And Ukraine, he got $83,000 a month. I think they made an up front payment of $3 million dollars. This is a guy didn't have a job. His father became vice president, and all of a sudden, his kid is getting rich. And he didn't have a job. He had no experience in energy, and he got $3 million dollars and $83,000 dollars a month, which is the wrong number, because the real number is $160-something thousand a month.

Donald Trump

00:24:14 - 00:24:15 (1 sec)

It's a disgrace.

Hugh Hewitt

00:24:15 - 00:24:17 (2 sec)

All right, you've given me double the time, Mr. --

Donald Trump

00:24:17 - 00:24:32 (15 sec)

So I'll stand there, and then his father stands here and says I'm not going to give you the billion dollars unless you get rid of the prosecutor and they got rid of the prosecutor and it's all on tape? And the media doesn't want to pick it up? Could you imagine if I said that?

Hugh Hewitt

00:24:32 - 00:24:43 (11 sec)

No, no. You've given me double the time. I don't want to abuse your time. I've got one last question, actually two. You tell me when to shut up, Mr. President, and I'll end it quick. Have you talked to Kanye about his bid?

Donald Trump

00:24:43 - 00:24:50 (7 sec)

I have not, but I think it's great if wants his voice heard.

Hugh Hewitt

00:24:50 - 00:24:54 (4 sec)

Do you think you'll get more African-American votes this time than you did last time?

Donald Trump

00:24:54 - 00:25:01 (8 sec)

Oh, yeah, I think so. I think a lot. Well, you saw there was a poll yesterday, a Rasmussen poll that had me in the 30s, okay? Did you see that?

Hugh Hewitt

00:25:01 - 00:25:03 (1 sec)

I did not. I did not.

Donald Trump

00:25:03 - 00:25:28 (25 sec)

Yeah, a Rasmussen poll. I think it was Rasmussen. But it had me in a very, very, very high position. But we, look, I've done criminal justice reform. I've done opportunity zones. I saved the black colleges and universities, historically black. We, with numbers that they didn't even think they were going to get, I saved them.

Donald Trump

00:25:28 - 00:25:40 (12 sec)

I saved them. They couldn't get money. And I saved them. Nobody else would have done it. Nobody else could have done it. Nobody else could have gotten criminal justice reform. And Obama didn't think he could get it. He never even tried.

Hugh Hewitt

00:25:40 - 00:25:54 (14 sec)

And you'll get the DREAMERs, I know you want for the Dreamers, let me close by asking about the debates. The expectations of the Vice President are being lowered by the hour. I think if he just stands up for an hour, that will lead the media to declare him a winner. I appreciate that you nominated me to be a moderator.

Hugh Hewitt

00:25:54 - 00:26:05 (11 sec)

I don't think the debate commission will give you anyone remotely close to being as tough on Biden as they are on you. Do you think they're lowering expectations for Joe Biden for the debates?

Donald Trump

00:26:05 - 00:26:15 (10 sec)

Well, I'm not lowering expectations. Everyone else is. I'm not. I don't do that. Look, whoever shows up, I watched him with Bernie Sanders, and he did okay. I wouldn't say he was Winston Churchill.

Hugh Hewitt

00:26:15 - 00:26:15 (1 sec)

Donald Trump

00:26:15 - 00:26:33 (18 sec)

But he got through. But you know the way it is, the fake news. If he stands up, and if he is able to breathe, and if he's able to walk off the platform, they'll say it was one of the greatest debate performances in history. These, the fake news is corrupt, and it's a disgrace. And it's now rated lower than Congress.

Donald Trump

00:26:33 - 00:26:53 (20 sec)

At least in my mind, it's rated lower than anything. But I've seen things from the fake news that someday I'll tell you some things you wouldn't even believe. These are corrupt people. So if he goes and debates, if he said yes, I had a wonderful breakfast, thank you for asking the question, they'll give him, they'll say it was one of the greatest answers in history.

Donald Trump

00:26:53 - 00:27:13 (20 sec)

So you know, I know what I'm up against, and I had a smaller dose of it with Hillary. But Hillary was smart. Joe was never smart. Joe wasn't smart in prime time. I've had a certain highly-respected senator years ago, I said, who I got along with very well which people would be shocked at, I said who's the smartest person in the Senate?

Donald Trump

00:27:13 - 00:27:32 (19 sec)

He gave me a name. Then he said who's the dumbest, and he said Joe. And I said who's Joe? Joe. I said who is he? Who is he? He said Joe. You don't know Joe? And we go along, and I said you're talking about Biden? Yeah, I'm talking about Joe Biden. I said why, he's the dumbest in the Senate? He's by far.

Donald Trump

00:27:32 - 00:27:51 (20 sec)

He's a glad hand. He called him a glad hand, and he was a friend. He was a friend of the guy. But he said Joe Biden's the dumbest in the Senate. Now that was in prime time. That question was asked 20 years ago, probably. You know, I've been involved in this stuff for a long time, even though not on this side that I'm on now.

Donald Trump

00:27:51 - 00:27:57 (5 sec)

I was on sort of the other side, like helping people get elected. Now, I'm really helping people get elected. Look at Bill Hagerty.

Hugh Hewitt

00:27:57 - 00:27:58 (2 sec)

Donald Trump

00:27:58 - 00:28:17 (19 sec)

Look at Hagerty in Tennessee. That was great. Look what happened, a great, really a great decision, two very good people, but a very easy win now in Kansas, because Roger's going to be fantastic. He's going to do a great job. We have a lot of, we have a lot of success going. We're doing very well with the Republican Party.

Donald Trump

00:28:17 - 00:28:27 (10 sec)

And you know, the endorsement, when I endorse, if you look, it's, I don't even want to give you the numbers, but hundreds to one or two or three.

Hugh Hewitt

00:28:27 - 00:28:33 (6 sec)

I think you've lost two. Now again, thank you for your time. You're still the best interview in the business. You know I said that four years ago.

Donald Trump

00:28:33 - 00:28:36 (3 sec)

Well I'm glad that never changed. Hopefully, it won't.

Hugh Hewitt

00:28:36 - 00:28:37 (1 sec)

It's never changed. We've got to get 15 more --

Donald Trump

00:28:37 - 00:28:40 (3 sec)

If you see it change, let me know it's time to get out of politics.

Hugh Hewitt

00:28:40 - 00:28:48 (8 sec)

We just need 15 more to make sure we keep our lucky streak going here, because I want the judges. You've delivered on the military spending. You've delivered on the judges. I have other things --

Donald Trump

00:28:48 - 00:29:08 (20 sec)

I delivered on the wall, and I delivered for the vets. And I delivered for tax cuts, and I delivered for regulation cuts, the biggest regulation and tax cuts in history, in history. I delivered on everything. And now, I have some other things to deliver on. And they don't knock down statues anymore, because they do to jail for 10 years.

Donald Trump

00:29:08 - 00:29:09 (1 sec)

So you notice that?

Hugh Hewitt

00:29:09 - 00:29:09 (0 sec)

Donald Trump

00:29:09 - 00:29:18 (9 sec)

And I'm waiting for the people in Oregon to call me, and the people in Illinois to call me so we can send in the National Guard and take care of their problems. But they don't want to call me.

Hugh Hewitt

00:29:18 - 00:29:20 (2 sec)

This has been another hand, Mr. President --

Donald Trump

00:29:20 - 00:29:22 (2 sec)

Pride or stupidity, they don't want to call.

Hugh Hewitt

00:29:22 - 00:29:26 (4 sec)

Chicago is getting out of hand. That was a rough weekend in Chicago.

Donald Trump

00:29:26 - 00:29:47 (22 sec)

We can solve that problem in one hour, just like we did in Minneapolis. They were ripping the place apart, and I was calling them and saying you'd better get the Guard out. Get the Guard out. We're ready. Get the Guard. Soon as they Guard came out, it was over in an hour. You saw the scene, the black uniforms walking down the street, boom, boom, boom, they didn't miss a step.

Donald Trump

00:29:47 - 00:29:53 (6 sec)

The whole thing was over. They could have done that a week earlier, and you wouldn't have had a city that was ripped apart.

Hugh Hewitt

00:29:53 - 00:29:54 (1 sec)

But you respect the governor's power.

Donald Trump

00:29:54 - 00:29:58 (4 sec)

And the only reason Seattle settled was they knew I was going in the next day.

Hugh Hewitt

00:29:58 - 00:29:58 (1 sec)

You're a federalist.

Donald Trump

00:29:58 - 00:30:01 (2 sec)

And my guys were going in the next day. That's the only reason that happened.

Hugh Hewitt

00:30:01 - 00:30:02 (1 sec)

You believe in federalism.

Donald Trump

00:30:02 - 00:30:10 (8 sec)

So a lot of positive things are happening, and you're a great guy. And a lot of fun, and we'll do it again. We have to keep our streak going.

Hugh Hewitt

00:30:10 - 00:30:14 (4 sec)

Thank you, Mr. President. Keep your schedule going. All right, 15 more times. Talk to you soon, Mr. President.

Donald Trump

00:30:14 - 00:30:15 (1 sec)

Thanks very much, Hugh. Goodbye.